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This is a new page, following from Call Up the Groups as it is now creaking under the weight of so much information, photos etc! As before, I have been overwhelmed by the ever growing interest as people discover these pages on my website and provided so much interesting snippets and images - it's great to be able to share it with the world instead of just languishing in scrapbooks, loft boxes etc!
I am now giving more insight into the fantastic years of Southampton's music makers and shakers during the main Fifties and Sixties and I trust you will enjoy even more memory jerking bits and pieces. Once again - if YOU have any input then please get in touch with any of your own stories or even rare photographs (jpeg format) and these can be added on. I need to add more info to each image so please get in touch if you sent these in as I am finding it difficult to keep track of so many great e-mails with attached photos that get filed for some while. Just identify the photo and let me know more about it as this really brings it all back for so many people.
I am also in the process of writing a book, which mirrors much of what you can find on my webpages,but in more detail and in a much different style of course. It is very localised to the Hampshire area so I'm not expecting to outsell J.K. Rowling! Very much a labour of love and I am looking to self publish it, hoping that I might break even....... More news as and when. I am also indebted to John Clare who posted a heavy package all the way from Australia and containing his amazing encyclopaedia known as Southern Roots - a veritable Holy Grail for any Hampshire based music fan! Much of this extra information and photos are now being uploaded on my pages so please keep coming back as more info gets shared with the world
Please keep coming back to this page as I am adding new info all the time and have quite a backlog of stuff that has been kindly sent to me - please be patient if you have contributed! I will just add different segments and some input is so good that it can be copied straight to the site, or I may have to edit/rewrite/enhance whatever crops up. Again - thanks to everybody who has enjoyed these memory laden pages and helped in any way as well as looking forward to new readers who might 'stumble' across it whilst surfing and searching for a long lost relative or anything to do with the Southampton music scene of yesteryear.
What about this for a great start! Amazing mid 60s photo of Johnny Dymond - 'legendary DJ' hosting a 'Juke Box Jury' style show as part of the International Teenage Forum (don't ask!) with the following celebrities as seated from L-R
Bob James (Avenue Artistes) Dave Dee Martin 'Cuddles' Smith John Roberts (MeddyEvils)
The Adam and Eve Club - Grand Opening Night 1964?
This small club was in Spa Road just behind the old Echo offices which stood in Above Bar Southampton city centre and many of us local groups played there or watched visiting bands. Rather cramped but great atmosphere and I have mentioned this well loved venue on my Venues page etc. Check out the news of the 2011 Adam & Eve Reunion Show at the Concorde Club on the blog 2011 page.
Johnny Dymond hosting a Pye Records promotion
Check out the pants - influenced by Jimmy Savile's hair??
Screaming Lord Sutch threatens JD with his big chopper!
Photograph courtesy Peak Picture 26 Holyrood Avenue - long gone!
JD spinning the platters at the Royal Pier - early 60s
Some old promo cards - waiting for the sender to redo individually
Pete York - popular 60s DJ
Tommy Kaye - another great DJ and character
Pictured below at Terry Rolph's wedding!
Terry Rolph (Avenue Artistes) Tommy Kaye Sylvia
Dig the hand coloured photo by none other than Johnny Dymond!
When Sylvia saw Tommy's outfit - she asked "Eh Tommy - is anything worn under the kilt?"
Tommy "No - everything is in perfect working order!"
Soul Agents 1964 promo - Terrific R&B band who also backed Rod Stewart
L-R Don Shinn (org) John Keeping (voc) Jim Sachs (bass) (front) Tony Goode (gtr) Roger Pope (drums) later with Elton John band!
One of the best ever bands of the early 60s R&B boom aided by the amazing organ playing 'boy wonder' Don Shinn at the Hammond organ plus obligatory Lesley speaker that was a prominent sound of the era. Don's solo rendition of 'Gospel Train' still reverberates in the memories of those who saw him play back then and he is still playing these days after an illustrious career over the decades, working with many legendary artistes of all styles.
Keeping, Sachs and Goode had originally been with early pop group 'Gene Anthony and the Lonely Ones' another of the Avenue Artistes stable. This band also featured Joey Bromley (bass) and Chris Warman (drums) with Gene mostly singing the ballads but Keeping on the heavier stuff that formed a great side to the earthy Soul Agents sound. Roger Pope (mentioned elsewhere on my site) was originally drummer with The Countdowns/Layne Rogers and the Countdowns who featured the following musicians: Ray Taylor (Layne Rogers) on vocals/harmonica Graham Medley (bass/voc) guitarists Roy Perry , Chris Tappin and John Hatch. Hatch, Medley and Perry had previously been with the Jaguars with Hatch and Medley later working with The Missing Links.
Ron Allen (Drums) and Roy Perry (middle) in top picture
Hatch left the Countdowns to join The Hobos and Roger left to become a Soul Agent with Taylor, Medley and Perry forming another much remembered band The Daisies as pictured above. Their brightly covered hand painted wreck of a group van was a familiar sight chugging through the streets of Southampton before braving the open roads that led them all over the South! The Daisies also featured Mike Rowthorn (keys) and Tony Taylor (drums) and were a long haired 'underground' outfit influenced by the Pretty Things - in fact they were given their name by Phil May of the very same London R&B band that outraged parents and the establishment even more than the Stones! Taylor later went onto a minor taste of 'celebrity' when appearing on TV and having his long locks shorn off for some weird reason.
The Soul Agents really took off when becoming Rod Stewarts' backing group after he had left Long John Baldry's Hoochie Coochie Men and Bluesology etc - these bands had also played the legendary Concorde Club with the likes of a shy bespectacled piano player called Reg Dwight - later known as Elton John!) Rod and the Soul Agents had a residency at the showpiece Marquee Club in Wardour Street London and they all enjoyed the delights of being in the middle of Soho as you can imagine! The group had to collect Rod from his flat above a fish and chip shop in Brentford in a battered old Commer band before making their way to the club - I wonder if Rod remembers all this as he lies in his jacuzzi in his Essex mansion or any of his other homes around the world?
Roger Pope Don Shinn Rod Stewart Tony Goode
July 2011- see this link on Rod Stewart's official fansite:
This is a copy of the article, reproduced with kind permission of Mike Walton ('Smiler' fan website)
Just after the band appeared on the amazing 'Ready Steady Go' (remember Cathy McGowan?) John Keeping left the group to take over the family painting and decorating business back in St Marys Street Southampton, long closed down. The band did another tour with blues legend Buddy Guy before going their separate ways with Don Shinn moving onto Dusty Springfield's backing group before going solo then followed by many years with different line-ups. Roger Pope then joined the Andover band Loot then teaming up with Ian Duck (ex Classics) to form Hookfoot before leaving the area to tour the world with the likes of Elton John, Kiki Dee, Denny Laine,plus many recording sessions with Hall & Oates, Frank Zappa and many more!
Keeping and Sachs later formed a 'social club' type band called Tapestry but left behind a great legacy of the Soul Agents who released three singles on the Pye label:
I Just Wanna Make Love To You/Mean Woman Blues 1964
Seventh Son/Let's Make It Pretty Baby 1964
Don't Break It Up/Gospel Train 1965
AVENUE ARTISTES FOOTBALL TEAM - 1974?
Commercial Houses Sunday Cup Winners
Names from Terry Rolphe (Avenue Artistes)
Top Row-Chris Golden,Jack Monk,Renny Fletcher,Terry Rolphe, Brian Knight (Goalie) ,Dave Carson,Patrick Trant
Bottom Row-Phillip Trant,Fred Petley,James Trant,Dennis Hamilton,Chris Traynor
Dennis and Chris were both Avenue DJs and Chris's dad was Tommy Traynor Ex Southampton FC
From Chris Golden DJ- 2 December 2011
Dave Carson sadly passed away some while ago but I have just had a lovely e-mail from his grand-daughter Lucy, who recently found my webpages plus remembering Dave. She is in the process of setting up her website and paying tribute to one of the most popular DJs from that era so I will let you know as and when- or just Google it yourself?
Former DJ Paul Brixey thought that the wannabe George Best on the right of the goalie might be Dave Carson? Paul wrote before Chris Golden's mail above:
Dave Dee Dozy Beaky Mick & Tich promo card
The Panthers 1961 Shrubbery College for Girls Basingstoke- 'Saturday Hop' (St Trinians type?)
Laurence McGowan (rhythm) John Newman (lead) Cecil 'Johnny' Houghton (voc) Mike Lamb (drums) Paul Donahoe (bass)
Probably booked via Len Canham and originally known as 'Johnny and the Panthers'
Thanks to original members Laurence and Mike for namechecks.
Bob Pearce shaking his maraccas!
I have known Bob Pearce since 1964 when we both started out in the R&B group scene and he was lead vocals and great blues harmonica with the Footprints. He later fronted many top rated Southampton bands and you can read all about him on my other pages - just check out the Group pages plus his own dedicated webpage. Old musos will recognise the standard Reslo Ribbon microphone that we all used! It was double sided so that two vocalists could share it although many mikes went through ropey p.a. systems in those early days - sometimes sharing inputs with guitars! I recall havinh such p.a. amps as a Meazzi (Italian metal effort on legs) Geloso plus the good old Linear Concord amps with glowing valves encased in a mesh case. Guitarists soon replaced home built amps with the classic Vox AC30 popularised by the Beatles and many more or the Vox T60 bass set -up with separate amp and speaker. Drummers usually progressed to Premier, Ludwig and other kits as well as the whole p.a. systems improving with the likes of Watkins and Marshall amps, stacks etc.
The Classics (Gosport) - around 1964.
Line-up listed as:
Ian Duck (voc/gtr/harm)
Paul Spooner (voc/harm)
Pete O'Flaherty (bass)
Tony Ransley (drms)
Ian Duck is still playing these days and had a great career with several top rated bands including Hookfoot, Meddy Evils/Quik, Mr Bloe ('Grooving with Mr Bloe' hit) and many more. Ransley and O'Flaherty joined Simon Dupree ('Kites' hit)
Ian Duck 2007
Dowlands and Julie Grant clippings - Imperial Ballroom Eastleigh '64
Rob Chance and Chances 'R'
Another top band and featured much respected guitarist Tommy Bannister who was thrilled to be at the Concorde ReUnion show in February 2008. Sadly, Tom has been disabled for a few years but came along in his wheelchair and had the time of his life. Met so many old pals and loved the music being knocked out by the featured groups who reformed for this nostalgic night. Read all about it on the Back To The Sixties webpage via SiteMap - Tommy sunk a lot of booze so cannot remember some of it! It was great to meet up with Tom and he has sent me the following e-mail which I have tidied up and offers another glimpse into a long career of one of the most respected musicians around:
What a great mail! If you check out my later Group pages you can find more on Groups 9 and I can now outline more about Tommy's bands as I am now poring over the most amazing piece of Southern Roots that was sent to me all the way from John Clare in Australia! This massive collection of background and photos was compiled over many years of painstaking research and the original draft of 1980 was sent to me by Beau Dinnage and served as the inspiration for my ever expanding webpages! This is the entry on the Chances R:
Chances R/Rob Chance and Chances 'R'
Rob Chance (voc)
Jim Bourne (drms)
Pete Cortez aka Pete Scott (rhythm g)
Tom Bannister (lead gtr)
Ron Calloway (bass gtr)
Tom Bannister Ron Calloway Rob Chance Jim Bourne Pete Cortez (Scott)
Later line-ups included:
Mike Davis (voc)
Graham 'Spike' Waters
Dave Cardy (drms)
Ivor Elliot (bass)
Glen Conway ( voc)
One of the best of the Southampton Sixties pop groups with great staying power, lasting four years 64-68 and surviving many line-up changes! The first line-up played the London Palladium and came third in the Melody Maker Beat Contest and also made two 1965 records at Hamiltons Studio (London Road) "Until Eternity" and "Little Angel" (penned by Chance) but neither were released. Then Jim Bourne switched to manager with drummer 'Spike' Waters and Mike Davis (2nd vocals) joining the band as it was the 'in thing' to have two singers at the same time (Nashville Teens, Turtles etc). Tom, Spike and Ron all got married within a year so left the group and that time the lads had two residencies. Southampton Ice Rink on every Friday and then Bournemouth Ice Rink on the Wednesdays. This picture below looks like one of those Ice Rinks.
Graham 'Spike' Waters Rob Chance Tom Bannister Pete Cortez Mike Davis Ron Calloway
The band then went under the management of Avenue Artistes with Jim Bourne becoming road manager. Drummer Spike was replaced by Dave Cardy (of Tony Benson & Skylanes) and then made three singles for CBS under the name of Rob Chance and the Chances 'R' in 1967 These were:
'Talking out the back of my head/I aim too high'
'Turn a new leaf over/Do it yourself'
'At the end of the day'
Spike Rob Pete Cortez Mike Davis
Photographed on the steps of Southampton Guildhall
When the last record failed to make it, Chance then gave up the ghost and dropped out of the music game for a few years (although Rob planned a 'comeback' in early 82 with Fifth Avenue)
Rob was then replaced by vocalist Glen Conway and bassman Ivor Elliot. They did a Norwegian tour and backing Jack Daley - a big U.S. star at that time but lasted just five months before splitting in 68 thus ending some memorable years of the ever changing Chances R who were just one of so many local bands that 'nearly made it'. I know that Tommy Bannister will be really chuffed to see his own memories on this page and it was so good to meet up with him at the Concorde ReUnion night back in February. He was visibly moved by seeing so many old pals and it was quite an emotional but fantastic evening as he relived the memories and lapped up the classic Sounds of The Sixties in which he was very much a part of. Let's hope that his condition improves and pray that one day we will see him get up there and do his stuff as one of the most respected musicians around.
Just backtracking as I can feature some more great photos/info of the original Transatlantics/Transatlantic 7 from their early days at sea, before returning to shore where Tom joined the new line-up. This is taken from Southern Roots -a veritable encyclopaedia of the Hampshire music scene and will provide much more in the near future as I plough through it all. I'm sure it will provide more memory jerking moments for anybody involved in the music business that was such an exciting time for us all.
TRANSATLANTICS - first line-up
Back row: Mike Davis Brian Cottington Jim Bourne Ricky Storm Dave Glaspool
Front: Steve Gerard Glen Matthews
Ist line-up (1961) from SR names guitarists Mike Davis (Denny Lone) and Brian Cottington Dave Glaspool (bass) Glen Matthews (keys/vocals) vocalists Ricky Storm (Brian Eldridge) and Steve Gerard plus 'Big Jim Diamond' (Jim Bourne) on drums. Later line-ups include Colin 'Angel' Wilshire (bass) Rob Chance (voc/keys) Alan Rowe (sax) Ron Calloway )bass) Sylvia Gale a rare female vocalist in early 60s bands!
The Transatlantics were originally formed by Mike Davis and Jim Bourne onboard the old 'Franconia' ship which sailed out of Southampton in the very busy days of ocean liners. They had just left shore based Bill Bevis and the Sunsets and this first line-up was a Rock n Roll showband that played onboard the ship and both sides of the Atlantic - hence the name. The Transatlantics also appeared on CBS television in Montreal and one of their strong features was having two great vocalists out front with Ricky Storm covering the uptempo songs of Cliff and Elvis style with Steve featuring the ballads so quite a perfect profile.
Line-up 2 with S.S. France in the background at Southampton Docks
Back Row: Brian Cottington Colin Wilshire Jim Bourne Mike Davis Rob Chance
Kneeling: Alan Rowe Ricky Storm
Must credit the photographer- H.G. Armitage A.I.B.P. A.R.P.S. 19-21 Queensway Southampton tel: 22960 (don't try ringing it!)
Final line-up: Brian Cottington Ron Calloway Mike Davis Sylvia Gale Rob Chance Jim Bourne
Stop Press: Just had yet another local ex group member get in touch - John Langford from the Hythe area. In his teens and early Twenties he was with a band called The Falcons and later adding a female vocalist to become:
4 HITS AND A MISS
Back row: Malcolm Collier Diane Maynard Rod Chainey
Kneeling: John Langford Terry Collier
Four Hits and a Miss were also represented by Len Canham's Avenue Artistes and dealing with Bob James and Phil Blake who played keyboards with the group. They worked all over the South Coast and further afield reaching the Midlands areas as well - no motorways then! The group's main years were from 1962-1969 and guitarist John Langford emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1970 followed by bass player Terry Collier (not to be confused with Tony Collier) who settled in Toronto so still in touch with his old buddy. John has mentioned that he has loads of old photos etc so looking forward to adding even more nostalgic stuff to the webpages and this is a great image above, showing the the classic Strats and Precision bass plus a Premier drumkit!
I have just checked with Southern Roots and the following information lists the following line-ups:
Nicky James (voc)
John Langford (gtr)
Danny Churchill (bass)
Terry Collier (bass)
Terry's brother? (drums)
Then various 'Misses' !!!
Quote: 'Four Hits and a Miss - Hythe band, lasted quite a while and there were several 'Misses' as the girls all became a 'Mrs' or pregnant! Collier and Langford formed the change after the final 'Miss' (became Mrs James) left with the horn section from the Anthony James set'. A later band- the Fleurs De Lys were formed from the 4 Hits line-up and you can find more information on them as well as noting a superb biography of this superb group- called 'Circles' by Damian Jones and Paul 'Smiler' Anderson. See my other webpages (blogs) or search on Amazon etc- it is a very good read and conveys those times so well- especially for lovers of 'mod' culture.
June 2008 - just received an e-mail from former bandmate Ernie Fagg who sent the following photo of the Earth Angels before I joined them, replacing Melvyn Day as lead vocals + harmonica. I left the Unforgiven in 1966 and spent a short while with this great Mod band named after a rare record by the Penguins.
L to R , Barry Melvyn Derek Roy Ernie.
THE EARTH ANGELS
SOUTHERN ROOTS INFO:
MELVYN DAY (previous voc)
ERNIE FAGG (bass)
BARRY MORROW (gtr)
DEREK EDMOND (drums)
RAY COOPER (gtr) replaced by
MELV McRAE (gtr)
SOUTHERN ROOTS INFO:
''Young R&B band from mid Sixties who played obscure soul numbers picked up from import 45s, a few blues plus some Who songs. They built up a fair following on the youth club circuit before disbanding. Day joined Combustion and later worked the Northern clubs. Edmonds and McRae also joined Expression and Fagg went onto the Midnight Movers and Bob Pearce Blues Band"
I enjoyed my year with the Earth Angels as we featured unusual numbers mixed with Who style numbers and had a good sound during the Mod era although I was riding motorbikes at the time instead of the obligatory scooter! This did confuse people as I wore Mod clothes but rode a 250cc Francis Barnett with 'Harley' handlebars so everybody asked me "Are you a Mod or a Rocker?" I replied "I'm a Mocker!" This is me and my small 'chopper'
I have just come across your web site, excellent work, really brings back the memories. First let me introduce myself to you I am Ernie Fagg, I played bass in the Earth Angels. The rest of the band were Melvin Macrae, lead guitar. Barry Morrow, rhythm guitar. Derek Edmunds, drums. As far as I remember Bob Pearce who was our manager got you to take over from Melvin Day. We had some good times you could certainly play that harmonica and you were a good laugh. Anyway when we broke up, Derek,and Melve Macrae joined John Drevars Expression with Colin Engel taking over on bass, but I cant remember who else was in the band.
I donít know what became of Barry Morrow. I settled down and got married. The strange thing though, after about a year or so I joined a band from Eastleigh/ Fair Oak area, called the Midnight Movers, Pete Rackam was lead guitar. Graham ??? sax + keyboards. Ritchie? Sax. Me, bass. I canít remember the drummer name. The singer ÖÖ.was Dave Drevar , Johns brother!!!
We used to practice at the Clock Inn, Fair Oak. It was ok for a while, but in the end we went our separate ways.
I didnít have any more to do with playing for about 10 years or so, when out of the blue Bob Pearce got in touch and asked me to join him in his Blues Band, we played mainly at the infamous Onslow pub in Bevois Valley. This went on for a while, it was a great place, lots of atmosphere too, but gradually as Bob got more bookings I decided to call it a day as I didnít want to play as much as that.Hope some of this is of interest to you,and if you have any other info perhaps you could email me when you get time. Keep up the good work.
August 2008: Another Earth Angel has got in touch! Here is Derek Edmond's e-mail
5th October 2009 Another e-mail from an Earth Angel!
Once again- I have been able to put old pals in touch on my MUSOS REUNITED pages! (©MUSOS REUNITED=copyrighted)
Colin (Angel) Wilsher Derek Edmond
Richie Hayes Melv McCrae
Photographed on Southampton Common 1969 for promoting 'Concerto'
John Drevar's Expression Frankfurt Germany 1968
"The photo was taken at 4.20 in the morning at the K52 club in Frankfurt on June 3rd 1968. That was a hell of a gig - 30 days of 5.00pm until 5.00am - 2 bands alternating. It nearly finished me off!!" Derek
This photo sent by Ernie and shows the Bob Pearce Blues Band at the Onslow(?)
L-R: Vernon Chuter Ernie Fagg Barry Freeman Paul Bryer
Thanks to Bob Pearce for confirming this line-up - He was probably at the bar during a lead break?
John Drevar was a very talented vocalist who had left Eastleigh's Planets group in 1965 when Beau Dinnage (then rhythm gtr) and myself joined the newly named Unforgiven line-up which featured Eddie Harnett (voc/gtr) Graham Medley (bass) Dave Bunney (drums) replaced by Ronnie Allen. See my Biography page to learn more.
Back row L to R Keith Bennett Colin Angel (Wilsher) Barry Palmer Melve Macrae Richie Hayes Derek Edmonds
John formed his Expression which was linked to the much respected Globe Show fronted by Chris Shakespeare and both bands managed by Dave Jay. JDE specialised in soul, Tamla Motown and mod type music and the often changing line-up included former Earth Angels Derek Edmond (drms) and Melvyn McCrae (gtr) along with Colin 'Angel' Wilsher (bass) Geoff Vaughan (organ) and Keith Bennett (sax) the latter helping to knock out a terrific sound. Melvyn Day (EAs) replaced John for a short while with Bennett and Shaw previously featured with The Big T Show. Shaw was then replaced by Ritchie Hayes (ex Chris Shakespeare Movement) then Drevar moved onto the Globeshow whilst the remaining lads became the Inflatable Toy (!) minus Bennett. McCrae went onto the heavy band Refuge with Wilsher moving onto Joker then Tramp. I am informed that Barry Palmer (Sax) joined Expression with Richie Hayes (keyboards) when Geoff Vaughan left the ever changing line-up!
Inflatable Toy did a rock version of Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto no. 1 in Bb minor - similar to the 'Nice' style of Keith Emerson and co. 'America' still an incredible sound to this day, and you will note that Keith was influenced by the innovative talents of Don Shinn (Soul Agents) and other bands.
Richie Hayes informs me that they had to play it in Am- an easier key for guitarists! This great sound was due to be produced by John Peel but he fell ill and passed it over to Gus Dudgeon but sadly the record never saw the light of day. These musicians and singers were very much respected within the Southampton music scene but the varying combinations never took off in the way that everybody expected such is the nature of the music industry. Check out this latest You Tube clip of the Inflatable Toys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDYluD5zQkA&feature=related
This information is taken from Southern Roots and quotes a 1967 record release on MGM "The closer she gets/When I come home" and this photo below is copied from the same SR listing:
After Expression broke up another single was issued on Polydor - What Greater Love b/w I've Decided which failed to make any impact in the charts but was issued a few years in the 70s and a minor hit.
Another interesting e-mail from Jimmy Keys who has had an amazing career since leaving our shores for the USA! Check out his website which is a great showcase with loads of comedy and musical stuff:
OK -that's it for now, so watch out for the next Call Up The Groups pages ! I have a backlog of so many e-mails, info and photos which are so good to receive and then get them onto my pages so that they can be shared with those that were there and everybody else. If you wish to get in touch with anybody on this and other webpages, then please e-mail me and I will endeavour to bring old pals together again. I get a buzz out of writing these pages although very time consuming but the good feedback makes up for it and maybe pave the way for future shows in which we drag certain musos back out of 'retirement'. The talent is always there and deserves to be shared so I hope that more good things will arise and thanks again to all sources that help to construct this ever growing compendium of Southampton's finest musicans. In fact, I've just thought of a name for it - we've had MerseyBeat and BrumBeat so how about...............
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